[ID4me Governance] Trust models for identity validation

Jörg Schweiger schweiger at denic.de
Sun Sep 23 03:58:43 UTC 2018

"Vittorio Bertola" <vittorio.bertola at open-xchange.com> wrote on 21.09.2018 

> Von: "Vittorio Bertola" <vittorio.bertola at open-xchange.com>
> An: "Matthias Pfeifer | dotBERLIN GmbH & Co. KG" <pfeifer at dot.berlin>, 
"Jörg Schweiger" <schweiger at denic.de>
> Kopie: "ID4me Governance WG" <governance_wg at lists.id4me.org>
> Datum: 21.09.2018 14:48
> Betreff: Re: AW: [ID4me Governance] Trust models for identity validation
> > Il 21 settembre 2018 alle 13.51 "Matthias Pfeifer | dotBERLIN GmbH & 
Co. KG" <pfeifer at dot.berlin> ha scritto:
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Jörg,
> > 
> > > I'd envision something like:
> > > 
> > > No restrictions on who validates a claim. Additionally, ID4me must 
be able to
> > > - "flag" if a a claim is validated or not
> > 
> > [>] What is, when we have a trustfully identity agent/provider (like a 
CA), we could treat all claims stored there as validated 
> and it's up to the user to choose such a identiy agent when he wishes to 
use validated claims. Could this become an reasonable model?

I'd favour a more fine granularity - for the sake of the user.

> The relying party however cannot know so easily whether an agent is 
trusted or not

you are absolutely right on this.  How about a specific accreditation for 
such agents?

, so the agent should still sign all claims (we 
> could even provide a mode in which it is possible to sign all claims at 
once rather than have a signature for each of them).
> The question that then follows is: could we say that all agents working 
with a specific authority are trusted as long as they sign
> their claims, implying that the authority has to check and validate each 
and every agent, or should authorities provide lists of 
> which agents should be considered trusted...?
> Ciao
> -- 
> Vittorio Bertola
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